
Flirtatious felonies? Two singles
seeking relationship help go on the record with date scene
investigator Ian Kerner
BY JILL BAUER
Ian Kerner, sex therapist and bestselling author of Be
Honest -- Your'e Not That Into Him Either, recently focused
on millions of confounded singletons.
As the host for Cosmo Radio on the
Sirius Network and one of AOL's Love & Sex coaches, Kerner,
a veritable Lt. Columbo of romance, explores a wide range
of real-life dating scenarios in his new book DSI: Date
Scene Investigation, The Diagnostic Manual of Dating Disorders
(Regan Books/HarperCollins, $24.95).
A quick perusal of the warning-sign
yellow DSI jacket informs us that we will be introduced to
the FBI (Federal Bureau of Intimacy) and that we will boldly
go where no civilian has gone before. ''Kerner ventures above
the law and beneath the covers,'' we are told. And that we
``have the right not to remain silent.''
We persuaded two South Florida daters
to participate in our very own DSI experiment. As luck would
have it, they did not remain silent. Before each of our 911
three-way calls to Kerner, both subjects enthusiastically
read DSI.
Our conversations were detailed and
lengthy but we heeded our editor's request -- and Joe Friday's
-- to offer up ``just the facts, ma'am.''
Optimistic despite commitment fears
Interrogation of Joanna Popper,
33, marketing executive:
Ian Kerner: If you were calling 911 what
would your most urgent dating question be?
Joanna Popper: I tend to have these long,
intense relationships and we never want to move forward.
Ian: Do you think you're commitment phobic?
Joanna: I think I am definitely commitment
phobic. Me and them and that's why I choose them.
Ian: What allows you to enter into a relationship
and then at some point bail?
Joanna: I always wonder if I want to be married
to that person.
Ian: Who was the last guy you dated and what
brought you together and what pulled you apart?
Joanna: The most recent guy I met in Landmark
(Education). He lived in Philadelphia. We were in class together
and he talked about moving here.
Ian: Did you get jittery?
Joanna: I am never clear that I want to be
with them forever. I find things wrong with them. I want to
change them. He wasn't clear about his professional aspirations.
He had no idea what he was doing.
Ian: How do you generally meet people?
Joanna: When I'm single I'm very active,
I go out a lot. Right now I'm single and I want to date.
Ian: What are your relationship goals?
Joanna: I want to get married and have kids.
Ian: What makes you fall for a guy?
Joanna: There definitely needs to be a physical
connection. And something else. An emotional and intellectual
connection. In my last relationship that connection was lost.
We both liked outdoor activities, boating, politics. But then
I wasn't excited about his spiritual path. His interests changed,
he started to follow a guru and it wasn't my interest to go
live near a spiritual guru.
Ian: You're an extremely active, social,
successful, together person and you're trying to attract the
same sort of people. You're choosing guys who are having identity
crises, career crises, spiritual crises. There's an energy
about someone who's breaking down or figuring things out.
Joanna: I don't think it's so obvious when
I meet them. Like the guru guy. It took me a few months to
figure that out.
Ian: Sounds like you want someone who's their
own person, who's more of a partner.
Joanna: I have an MBA, I work and I don't
have an interest in supporting my whole family.
Ian: It sounds like you're kind of a career
counselor, a guidance counselor. It's a role you play very
naturally and very well. Could you let somebody care for you?
Could you let somebody be in charge for a little bit?
Joanna: That might be an issue. I had a boyfriend
who made it clear that he'd handle everything but I am very
social and I know about things going on.
Ian: What are your attitudes about dating?
Joanna: Overall, I'm optimistic. I always
have lots of dates. I don't have an attitude that this is
the wrong city. I think that if you want a relationship you'll
find it.
Ian: Do you have a physical type?
Joanna: Tall. All my boyfriends are different
looks but they're all tall. And they're all classically somewhat
good looking.
Ian: If you had to say what all of these
guys had in common what would that be?
Joanna: Identity or career meltdowns. They
all had it.
THE 911 ANALYSIS
Ian: You are minutes away from your relationship.
You go out a lot and you seem to know what you want. There's
probably a side of you based on your childhood to guide people,
to be the strong one and a side of you that's not being nurtured.
You're finding yourself in relationships that play to your
strengths and you need to find a place where you're being
fed. I'd probably raise my standards in terms of whom I date.
That guy is out there that has the strength and the looks.
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